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Four Concealed Pungs (坑坑糊) in Hong Kong Mahjong: Limit Hand, Examples and Odds

Four Concealed Pungs example: concealed pungs of 1 characters, 4 characters, 7 dots and Red Dragon, plus a pair of 9 dots

In Hong Kong mahjong, Four Concealed Pungs (坑坑糊, haang haang wu) is a limit hand, scored Limit: all four pungs are concealed — every one drawn by yourself, none claimed from a discard — plus a pair. A limit hand scores the 10-fan cap straight away.

Four Concealed Pungs is really a concealed All Pungs. Ordinary All Pungs is 3 fan, but as soon as all four pungs are your own draws, it jumps to the limit.

Concealed pungs of 1 characters, 4 characters, 7 dots and Red Dragon, plus a pair of 9 dots
On this page
  1. The rules for Four Concealed Pungs
  2. How Four Concealed Pungs is scored
  3. How it relates to other hands
  4. Four Concealed Pungs odds
  5. When Four Concealed Pungs is worth trying
  6. Four Concealed Pungs in other mahjong styles
  7. FAQ

The rules for Four Concealed Pungs

When winning on a discard still counts

You don't have to self-draw, but how the last tile arrives matters:

How Four Concealed Pungs is scored

The fan below are computed live by the same scoring code the game uses.

Four concealed pungs (坑坑糊)Limit
Total10 fan · Limit

Anything over 10 fan scores 10 (the limit).

Nothing claimed, all four pungs drawn yourself, then a self-drawn 9 dots: Four Concealed Pungs, a limit hand.
Four concealed pungs (坑坑糊)Limit
Total10 fan · Limit

Anything over 10 fan scores 10 (the limit).

The same hand — four concealed pungs done, waiting on 9 dots for the pair — and someone discards 9 dots: still Four Concealed Pungs.
Concealed hand (門前清)1
All pungs (對對糊)3
No flowers (無花)1
Total5 fan

Anything over 10 fan scores 10 (the limit).

Waiting on Red Dragon or 9 dots to complete a pung; someone discards 9 dots: that pung isn't concealed, so it's All Pungs, concealed hand and No Flowers only.
SituationFan
Four concealed pungs, self-drawnLimit
Four concealed pungs done, pair won on a discardLimit
Two-pair wait won on a discard (three concealed pungs)5 fan
All Pungs with one pung claimed3 fan and up

How it relates to other hands

Four Concealed Pungs odds

How many pairs in the opening hand

You need to draw all four pungs yourself, so the more pairs you start with, the better. A 13-tile opening hand has 4 or more pairs about 2.2% of the time, and 5 or more only 0.11%.

Pairs in the opening handChance
1+ pairs87%
2+ pairs50%
3+ pairs15%
4+ pairs2.2%
5+ pairs0.11%
6+ pairs0.0014%

Source: 1,000,000 random 13-tile deals (flowers already replaced).

How often it happens in play

In 100,000 hands of computer play on this site (81,026 wins), Four Concealed Pungs came up 18 times, 0.022% of wins; ordinary All Pungs was 5.8%. All Pungs is usually built fast by punging discards — and the first pung rules out Four Concealed Pungs, which is why the gap is so wide.

When Four Concealed Pungs is worth trying

To get a feel for when to hold back, open a table of online Hong Kong mahjong and play the computers.

Four Concealed Pungs in other mahjong styles

Four concealed pungs exists in Japanese, Taiwanese and Chinese Official (Guobiao) mahjong, with different scores and self-draw rules: Japanese mahjong yaku list, Taiwanese mahjong tai table, Guobiao fan table. Sichuan mahjong has no such hand; the closest is Sichuan mahjong All Pungs.

FAQ

How many fan is Four Concealed Pungs?

In Hong Kong mahjong Four Concealed Pungs is a limit hand: Limit, the 10-fan cap.

Does Four Concealed Pungs have to be self-drawn?

Not always on this site: with four concealed pungs done and a pair wait, winning on a discard counts. On a two-pair wait, the pung completed by a discard isn't concealed, so it's only All Pungs. Some tables always require a self-draw — agree on it first.

Do concealed kongs count?

Yes. A concealed kong is four tiles you drew yourself and counts as a concealed pung; exposed and added kongs don't.

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